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Re: Harbour plans
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2015, 08:35:27 AM »
Hope it is excitement brian j p, as there will be, no doubt, some not so keen >:D 

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Re: Harbour plans
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2015, 01:54:54 PM »
I like a bit of speculation...this will be our 27th year in Kalkan and I have seen loads of changes and speculated on many and by and large things are not at all bad (besides too many hillsides vanishing with building) of course not everyone will be happy but my glass is  half full not half empty and if I didn't like it I wouldn't visit......I'm sure it will all look very nice ;)
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Re: Harbour plans
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2015, 03:42:05 PM »
We made it down to the Pinar Bufe, pleased to say rather busy & still operating. It's half term here at the moment so quite a few families down there. The beach was a bit of a mess,  pebbles/stones washed up into piles & yes, sand in situ together with bits of debris, the weather having been it seems rather rougher/stronger than first realised having watched from home. The burnt out properties have been flattened & cleared, Salt & Pepper looking abit dangerous as a small part of it over hanging the edge so perhaps a problem there. Having spoken to one of the owners, who was actually smiling, he stated that all the same people will be back operating when the season starts so a positive there.  The rain has held off so far & behind the glass it has been glorious  day but the wind has been quite bitter in places. Also saw the old ruined house by the little mosque which has been there for years, being demolished by hand, now that is sad & part of our many years history of knowing Kalkan.

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Re: Harbour plans
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2015, 06:51:42 AM »
Forgot to mention that we saw the planting of winter pansies down the  middle of the road to the old town by the PTT yesterday, perhaps thats the first sign of the new season!!!

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Re: Harbour plans
« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2015, 07:22:48 AM »
DRBD, has there been a recent development re giving priority to previous occupants? I truly hope so.
You say that one of the owners said that "all the same people will be back operating when the season starts."
I was informed by another owner that all of the new units will go up for auction.

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Re: Harbour plans
« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2015, 04:12:47 PM »
I too hope existing owners will  given a first refusal, however if it did go to auction ,  I will keep my eyes open on ebay !! 

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Re: Harbour plans
« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2015, 08:07:16 PM »
Joules... can only comment on what was said to us on Sunday by one of the owners, didn't press them any further.

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Re: Harbour plans
« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2015, 10:15:15 PM »
We will be supporting the businesses who were there before the fire, wherever they are located, rather than a business that has 'outbid' them for that location.

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Re: Harbour plans
« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2015, 06:42:27 AM »
Joules .....Apologies,  I should have said Friday not Sunday. .

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Re: Harbour plans
« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2015, 07:57:59 AM »
I agree with supporting existing businesses  as much as possible  and fingers crossed existing business owners will have a fair shot at getting the new lets, however  at the end of the day I suspect  it will come down to  location , location, location as far as many if not most visitors are concerned, If there is a nice restaurant    serving good food   in that location , I suspect  that is where they will end up regardless of whom runs it ,  not least  if  new buildings  are as good as the plans suggest, the views from the top terraces will be spectacular,
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Re: Harbour plans
« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2015, 09:36:16 AM »
Anyone got any News on the progress of the burnt out buildings on the Harbour now it's been flattened???
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Re: Harbour plans
« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2015, 03:38:33 PM »
Have just updated on 'Out of Season', perhaps due to the weather nothing seems to  started/progressed.
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Re: Harbour plans
« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2015, 01:36:53 PM »
interesting article / update on KTLN re fire and harbour plans:   I note they mention a few buildings  perched precariously  where the new retaining wall is supposed to be built,  However I also note the new plans show some nice green recreational  areas behind the retaining wall and as such  I was trying to figure out  if the new plans  mean   (1)  the buildings currently perched on the side of the hill  are not supposed to be there  in the first place  and will be removed permanently. (2)  the plans are wrong  in that there will not be a recreational space  behind the retaining wall and thus the buildings will stay there (3) it is one of those many  occasions where a  compromise will be reached 

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Re: Harbour plans
« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2015, 02:48:20 PM »
the article on KTLN is very good - please take some time to read it. It looks as though the new units are unlikely to be occupied and running until the end of June - at the earliest. Also, there are no guarantees the original owners will be back in their old slots as they will also be up for tender.
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Re: Harbour plans
« Reply #34 on: March 05, 2015, 04:25:06 PM »
K4E : agreed ,  do hope original renters/owners have first refusal ,   but suspect will go to highest bidders

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Re: Harbour plans
« Reply #35 on: March 05, 2015, 05:01:45 PM »
So no hope for my birthday drink in Kleo then in May  :(
I imagine the no building after 15 May will be waived for this development? Seems we will have a rather precarious walk to the beach from our lovely house in the old town.....makes me feel sad.
Really hope the original owners will be successful, this must be so stressful for them and their staff, many of which have worked in these bars and restaurants for years.

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Re: Harbour plans
« Reply #36 on: March 05, 2015, 05:31:37 PM »
The difficult thing for the current owners is they have to tender by mid April - KTLN doesn't say when they will know if they've been successful and if they aren't where will they get in the village at short notice?
I cant imagine Kalkan without those businesses so lets hope they are all successful as it doesn't sound as though they are being given first refusal, brian j p :(

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Re: Harbour plans
« Reply #37 on: March 05, 2015, 07:24:35 PM »
Also for the business owners involved many of them have worked with the same great staff who are part of the lovely experience when you visit. I wonder how they will be able to keep them if they can't open until late June as these workers will need a wage after a winter without earning. It's so sad for the 5 business and I hope they can all start again somewhere, if not in their original locations. I'm sure the harbour area will look lovely when finished but there is a bit of pain until then.

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Re: Harbour plans
« Reply #38 on: March 05, 2015, 08:46:17 PM »
I really feel for the owners and all the stress involved in having to bid for what is in effect their business premises. The years it has taken to build these businesses up, it is soul destroying. Also as has already been mentioned the staff that they have employed who have become good friends over the years.

I really hope for them all that the outcome is good. I cannot imagine where we would have a drink, that offers the same ambience as Kleo bar. I shall be keeping everything crossed.

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Re: Harbour plans
« Reply #39 on: March 06, 2015, 08:12:06 AM »
What we have to remember is that throughout its years as a tourist destination many of the Kalkan restaurants have moved about the town for various reasons, some have even vanished altogether.  It is always a shame that whenever a favourite place moves or closes it will include some or all staff changes, mostly they will & do survive in their new locations or jobs.

It will be a shame for the owners of the old establishments if they lose their bids, that's if they all apply, nothing will be the same in that part of the harbour as we have known it over the recent years it is or was a special location but now it is moving on & we can only wish those involved our good luck should they want to or can afford to take things further & make it again a special area.     


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