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Everything Else & Classifieds => The Everything Else Area! => Topic started by: Chucky on August 27, 2007, 08:25:40 PM
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Well is it a cake or a biscuit? ???
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Sad I know but I know the official answer to this one.
McVitie''s classed its Jaffa Cakes as cakes, but in 1991, this was challenged by HM Customs and Excise in court. This may have been because Jaffa Cakes are about the same size and shape as some types of biscuit. The question which had to be answered was what criteria should be used to class something as a cake or biscuit. McVitie''s defended the classification of Jaffa Cakes as a cake by producing a giant Jaffa Cake to illustrate that their Jaffa Cakes were simply mini cakes.
They also argued that the distinction between cakes and biscuits is simply that cakes go hard when stale, whereas biscuits go soft. It was demonstrated that Jaffa Cakes become hard when stale and McVitie''s won the case.
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Now i think thats the best post ever on the forum - I love trivia like that!!
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So do I get an extra star for that??
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Kalkanfan - did the question arise because cakes or biscuits are taxable? ie one is and one isn''t!
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Cakes were zero rated for VAT purposes as they were confectionary whereas biscuits did not qualify for zero rateing. Customs tried to argue that Jaffa cakes were chocolate coated biscuits and therefore subject to the standard rate of VAT.
Those of you that would like to see the full reasoning behind this decision can view it here:
http://www.educationet.org/messageboard/posts/38833.html (http://www.educationet.org/messageboard/posts/38833.html)
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Best JaffaCake post awarded! ;D
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I am honoured to have been given such a truly unique award. I can imagine having some difficulty explaining the significance of this award to the staff at the Meldi Hotel in just over two weeks time!
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You''ll have to take a box with you to so they can join the great debate.
PS. Have sent some EnjoyKalkan stickers over with my son today and he''s just texted me to say they''ve arrived safely and are "lovin it" already!!!
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Im sure they will have great delight calling you a prize Jaffa! ;D ;D ;D
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Excuse me, but I started this post!!! I have tried to establish if Jaffa cakes go hard when they are stale, but have always eaten them all long before then.
So how about a few other trivial type questions?
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Are you gunning for the Queen of Trivia award JoanH?! :D
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Which supermarket sells jaffacakes, and if not, what an export opportunity - instead of the cotton wool sponge cakes at 5pm jaffacakes and Liptons!
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Thank you for getting my mouth watering for Jaffa Cakes- that you cannot buy here in Turkey! ;)
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Forgive me, but I am suffering from hard cheese and sour grapes!!!
I thought the question would start a lively but fun thread and am disappointed because Kalkanfan spiked my guns with the answer, and then got the credit.
I will sulk with a box of Jaffa Cakes and I will not be sharing them with any one ''cos they are mine, all mine.!!!!!
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5 mins on the lips........a life time on the hips!! now will you share? ;D
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No, they are mine, now leave me alone while I get fat and sulk. :(
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JoanH - you enjoy your Jaffa Cakes, please do not share them - hate the things, should be banned ;D
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I agree with DRBD. I''d sooner eat the hard cheese and sour grapes!
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JoanH
I thought giving the correct answer would entitle me to take the credit for it - it was never my intention to stifle what could have been an interesting debate :D. What are the chances of a member of this forum knowing the officially recognised answer to your question? If I know the answer to your next teaser I promise not to chip in straight away.
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It''s ok, I forgive you, Prize Jaffa, but you are still not getting your paws on my Jaffa Cakes. I think you should post the next "trivia" topic? I''m sure we are all very clever after all we found this web site. Joan xx
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Personally, I consider it to be a cake.
And i like to nibble around the edges then remove the orangey slice from the base and eat them seperately.
Thats when im not troughing them down quick so i get the larger share! ;)
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Should the last post be X rated - there might be minors reading....
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Lol..depends on the mind of the person reading it, i suppose. :D
Was intended as a description of my enjoyment of the loveliness that is a jaffa CAKE!
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if there was no biscuit and no cake ....would jaffa be regarded as just jelly? ::)
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this M&S battle has been going on for a while, but the treasury were insisting they wouldn''t reimburse the company as customers had paid...it''ll be intersting to know the outcome.
Incidentally if M&S chocolate teacakes and Jaffa Cakes are classified as "cakes" why are they to be found in the biscuit aisle in store?? ;)
I bet you all look next time you''re in M&S or Tesco... ;D
(apologies to those who can''t get to M&S or Tesco (with a "c") because you live in the most beautiful village in Turkey :P)
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I''ve been reliably informed by my very health conscious son that eating Jaffa Cakes by the box is perfectly acceptable, cos after all, they only have 1g of fat. Hahaha
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I like your son. :-*
But not as much as Jaffa cakes ;D
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Mr B always insists that a Jaffa cake is one of his five daily portions of fruit, so if he eats 10 then he''s done a good deed for two days in one go!! ???
I must admit to a weakness for M&S choc teacakes..especially as you can get twenty in a pack for 99p when thy are on special offer!!! ;D
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my mrs insists that a cadburys chocolate orange is fruit... ;D
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......and carrot cake is veg..... ;)
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are you Marjorie Dawes from little Britain?... ;D ;D
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wine is grapes and most definitely part of my 5 a day :)
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And if you close your eyes, the calories don''t count ::)
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And anything eaten on a Friday, Saturday or Sunday doesn''t count....or on a special meal out....or any meal out for that matter!!
Now.....where''s my ''fat'' clothes....think i''ll need them!! ;)
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..also when you have a diet coke with your meal it completely negates the calories.... ;)
...or we could just eat...dust?????
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Personally, I don''t care whether they are cakes or biscuits, I love ''em anyway.
But the burning question in our office recently was:
Jaffa Cakes or Hobnobs? ^-^
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For the answer to every biscuit and cake-related question you have ever asked, can I recommend:
www.nicecupofteaandasitdown.com
Very funny site and you can buy their book and other merchandise. I need to get out more
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I think a lot of that windfall came from the number of teacakes I buy...addicted to them
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On the contrary, Feds, M&S have actually increased the cost of their teacakes..now when there''s a special offer you get 16 for £1.20 when it used to be 99p...all those 21p''s add up, you know....cm''on M&S pass your windfall on to customers who actually bought the teacakes in the first place!!! Like me... :laugh: