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Title: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: kele on July 07, 2009, 09:09:25 AM
Does anyone know if the restaurant run by a Scottish woman on the left hand side of the road, opposite the car hire place, & close to the Asfiya on Kalamar Rd ever has any customers? I''ve walked or driven past over the last 2 weeks on numerous occasions and never seen a customer! Which is hardly surprising as the place is trying to flog full English Breakfasts,  Roast Beef & Yorkshire Pud, and Brussels Sprouts amongst other things!
I''ve never seen an eating place so totally out of step with the style of Kalkan.
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: DawnT on July 07, 2009, 09:47:32 AM
I saw it 2 weeks ago, and couldnt believe they were doing Roast Lamb & Yorkshire puds in 40 degree heat!! I agree with you though totally out of character for Kalkan!!  Mind you, so are the gogo dancers at Mojhito!!
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: Blue Lizard on July 07, 2009, 11:08:58 AM
when i first went to kalkan over 22 years ago you couldn''t get steak and chips very easily.....now most restaurants sell it and many customers eat it..it''s hardly "turkish Cuisine"..but it''s what people want,if someone wants a roast good luck to them,if someone will sell them one good luck to them as well.I remember an occasion when a table of supposedly respectable adults were amazed that i had ordered egg and chips...how dare i!! it was on the menu and i fancied it after days or rich turkish food...The same party proceeded to tut tut....then they started sending food back ,then changing orders,then got louder and louder,they were clicking fingers at the waiter,no please and thank yous...then argued over the bill.......i enjoyed my egg chips,moral of the story?manners maketh man not food ;)

imagine if i had had the audacity to wear my football shirt!! ;) ;D
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: Enjoy Kalkan on July 07, 2009, 11:16:58 AM
and there was me thinking giving people a choice was a good thing!  :)

The biggest part of life is evolution and places will change, Kalkan included! Some changes may not to be everyones taste, but may be to other peoples taste, as with anything you cannot please all the people all of the time.
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: alantj on July 07, 2009, 11:19:16 AM
Its not just thıs one restaurant. Over the last few days I have notıced lots of places now doıng the ''full Englısh'' and several offerıng roast dınners.

Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: Enişte on July 07, 2009, 11:26:34 AM
Even more British, whatever happened to the Indian restaurant that used to be near the Kalamar roundabout?  

I had a lovely bacon & HP sarney at the Swan last night and still don''''t feel guilty.  I very much doubt that I will ever go for a Sunday roast in Kalkan, but the option remains open, as long as they have nice loos with plenty of authentic British graffiti.  

Whatever next - kebab restaurants in the UK?
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: kele on July 07, 2009, 11:41:21 AM
Sorry if my comments upset anyone, I was simply trying to understand how a Restaurant can exist, and more importantly prosper, with a menu that appears so out of step with the high quality international cuisine available in town.
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: Enjoy Kalkan on July 07, 2009, 12:05:34 PM
Hi Kele,

Not at all, its good to hear everyones views  :)

I was just waiting for the "usual gang" to come along again  ;D
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: Lougie on July 07, 2009, 01:01:04 PM
Nooooooooo!!! I don''t understand how anyone would want to eat a roast dinner etc instead of delicious healthy Turkish food, I think even if I lived in Kalkan I wouldn''t miss English food, English food is made to keep us warm in the winter, it''s stodgy food, you wouldn''t want that in 40 degrees heat would you?

I think places like that will ruin Kalkan, I noticed this year there is a lot more places doing English breakfasts, cheesecake & stuff like that, to me it takes away the Turkish feel of Kalkan that I love so much.

I can understand people wanting something different as the food is very rich but not a roast dinner or English breakfast, please no!!

Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: Blue Lizard on July 07, 2009, 02:26:13 PM
Thats fine ..you have made your choice....it''s no different to eating a plate of Guvec(casserole)surely that is a winter warmer? yet very popular and eaten by many myself included in sweltering kalkan....i wish the new venture well, maybe it''s quiet because of it''s location i haven''t been up kalamar road this year....not far from cafe Vita?...whos homemade chips have been mentioned on several occasions(but they are turkish spuds!)and i can''t envisage kalkans demise being bought about by a yorkshire pudding!! ;) ;D
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: fidimax on July 07, 2009, 02:46:12 PM
Someone must be eating there or the Scottish lass would have closed,she is providing a service which SOME people must use,does anyone know if all she serves is english breakfast and a sunday roast,has anyone eaten there.
If she is making a living let her get on with it,everyone has to start somewhere,good luck to her.

                                                              ;D
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: Blue Lizard on July 07, 2009, 03:04:36 PM
Does she do haggis and chips?  8)
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: Enişte on July 07, 2009, 03:15:43 PM
...with a nice deep-fried salad on the side!  Whatever, I wish her well with this venture - perhaps sooner or later the urge for brussels sprouts will become overpowering!
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: fidimax on July 07, 2009, 03:21:27 PM
maybe neeps and tatties ?
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: littlelin on July 07, 2009, 03:28:37 PM
When we were there at the beginning of June we only ever saw a couple of people there. The prices seemed reasonable. Apart from roast dinners, steak & chips, also on offer was homemade steak & kidney pie which might appeal to the expats. I don''t think that it was the menu which put us off, rather than the cheap looking decor. If this restaurant were in say Marmaris, then it''d probably do quite well, I personally don''t think it fits in with Kalkan. Mind you I was quite tempted to stop for an Irish Coffee which was only 6TL I think.
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: misty on July 07, 2009, 03:48:00 PM
It always amazes me that most resorts you go to, all the Red Barrell, Ye Olde English pubs type establishment''''s they are always mobbed out with Brits eating all day breakfasts Sunday roast etc......has no one ever heard of "when in Rome".......  
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: Enişte on July 07, 2009, 04:54:26 PM
Anyone giving it a try could usefully report back whether they are open all year round, to cater to those of suffering through a Kalkan winter, in my case my first!
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: Mrs Enjoy Kalkan on July 07, 2009, 06:19:40 PM
Don''t blame you for wanting to know that Eniste, there would be something quite comforting about having a good old roast on those chilly nights in Kalkan during the winter.
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: Em1 on July 07, 2009, 06:21:51 PM
Hi
If they do roast chicken, then I will try it in October. Yummm!
Em
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: kevincat99 on July 07, 2009, 09:27:07 PM
I am told on very good authority that the English breakfast is excellent value both in taste and value at 9 TL - they also offer the traditional Sunday Lunch and why not - if it sells - sell it
There are now other restaurants such as Cafe Zula offering an English Sunday dinner
Maybe its apparent lack of customers is its location or people, who think eating there and / or what it serves is somehow beneath them.
Those who talk about not wanting to eat English food here, only Turkish, may be somewhat misguided as there are very few "proper" Turkish restaurants in Kalkan, as it now caters for "European-ish" [is that a word?] palates.
Go to a real Turkish restaurant and you will never see food that is served in Kalkan or at Kalkan prices.
So please, if people want to eat egg and chips @ Cafe Vita or wherever, let them and if you live here 365 days a year, lets have some more choices
This restaurant is not going to change Kalkan, any more than a Burger King and be sure, if someone thinks they can make money at it - it will come...........,
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: Pauline on July 08, 2009, 11:42:46 AM
Living on the Kalamar Road as I do I pass this restaurant frequently.   I believe that people visiting Kalkan can choose whatever they want to eat and where they want to eat.   My complaint is that it looks very tacky for the area with its signs all over the front of the restaurant - and the decor could have been discretely done in tone with the area.    I go to Cafe Vita regularly and I feel very comfortable there - it is a very pleasant place to sit and enjoy whatever food i personlly want.   A little more thought into the presentation of this new restaurant would have been appreciated.   Surely Kalkan is basically Turkish and we are just visitors to this beautiful village.   Do we have to spoil it. 
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: Lougie on July 08, 2009, 11:54:55 AM
Totally agree Pauline.

I really can''t understand people who move to another country because they love it and then want to change it to be like England!
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: paulie1955 on July 08, 2009, 04:48:46 PM
I know everyone raves about the food in Kalkan, but I find a lot of it very average and very anglicised, and usually with far too big portions--particularly in the summer months when small and tasty is my preference rather than to have huge portions with rice,potatoes,broccoli etc. I think some of the best food isin the cheapest places. The nicest food I ever had in kalkan was made by Tekins (when he was still at yali bar) mum.You would never see food like she made in the local restaurants.Paul
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: Enjoy Kalkan on July 08, 2009, 05:20:04 PM
We thought the food in Ali Babas restaurant was lovely, perfect portion sizes etc, just a great place  :)
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: misty on July 08, 2009, 05:28:55 PM
Which Ali Baba''''''''''''''''s we love the one just up from the roundabound on the right heading up the hill to the bus station....great food and Mustafa and his family and the nicest people you could wish to meet.....and the food is fantastic....especially the vegetarian wrap which is amazing.....great roof top terrace as well :laugh:  
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: Enjoy Kalkan on July 08, 2009, 06:33:51 PM
The one heading up the hill Misty with the roof terrace, we love it there  :)
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: Wonderwall on July 08, 2009, 07:40:58 PM
I''m afraid I''m going to have to defend us Brits here - as Eniste says "What next - kebab shops in the UK?".... 

We once invited some very good Turkish friends, who were visiting the UK, for Sunday lunch.  Thinking that they would want to try some of the ''local'' food, we prepared the best Sunday Roast we have ever cooked.  They refused everything except the chicken and wanted bread with it.  I also have a friend who is married to a Turkish lady in the UK, and he has a stepson by that lady, who lives in Istanbul.  When this grown-up stepson comes to stay with them in the UK, he too refuses to eat anything that is not Turkish.  We Brits are not the only ones that like the food we grew up with. 

Personally, my mouth waters when I see that sign for Steak and Kidney pie.  Steak and Ale would go down a treat too. ;)

And as for her decor - ''cheap'', some of you say?  Maybe she''s working hard, from a limited budget, and simply doing the best she can.  Good luck to her.
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: misty on July 08, 2009, 07:53:37 PM
The one heading up the hill Misty with the roof terrace, we love it there  :)

He does all our transfers nice mini bus usually a Merc always an older gent driving very steady and safe which is reassuring based on some of the comments posted......and my son reckons his milk shakes are wicked  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: fidimax on July 08, 2009, 08:06:40 PM
I always use Byram and Mustafa for my transfers,good price and the driver is very good,as is the food at Ali Babas,and they are really nice people.
Misty did you bump into Mustafas brother ? I thought Mustafa had shrunk !   ;D
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: belinda on July 08, 2009, 08:40:05 PM
The breakfast in this place is very good for nine lira, they also do a small english breakfast there,(1 egg 1 bacon 1 sausage, beans mushrooms and toast for 5 lira). Bit of a bargain if you ask me.
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: misty on July 08, 2009, 08:47:41 PM
I always use Byram and Mustafa for my transfers,good price and the driver is very good,as is the food at Ali Babas,and they are really nice people.
Misty did you bump into Mustafas brother ? I thought Mustafa had shrunk !   ;D

Yep I know what you mean  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: belinda on July 08, 2009, 08:57:36 PM
The breakfast in this place is very good for nine lira, they also do a small english breakfast there,(1 egg 1 bacon 1 sausage, beans mushrooms and toast for 5 lira). Bit of a bargain if you ask me.
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: ScotsinKalkan on July 08, 2009, 10:56:44 PM
I think this is a bit of a culture problem as we are so bad in the UK at trying other things, remember Spain and all the terrible places doing Full English Breakfast and Sunday Roast in the 80''s!

When have a real issue around good food in the UK but should not try and export it to other countries. I come to Kalkan to taste "real" tomatoes and "great" local veg etc so don''t spoil it by giving me local versions of the stuff I can eat 365 at home!

The is nothing worse to me than Full English breakfast abroad it shows a complete lack of imagination and the ability to get involved with the local way.
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: foreverkalkan on July 08, 2009, 11:16:54 PM
I agree with you ScotsinKalkan, why would you want it with the fantastic food there
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: Lougie on July 09, 2009, 10:24:15 AM
Hopefully the mini Benidorm will stay down Kalamar road!!
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: Enişte on July 09, 2009, 10:49:11 AM
Isn''t it about time EK acted to stop this lady peddling this foreign muck and polluting the minds of Kalkan''s young and innocent?.....               Just a joke.

How about a bit of ''live and let live'' here or even ''a little of what you fancy does you good''?  In 5 years visiting and now living in Kalkan, I have never been more than 20 yards down Kalamar road and would probably not choose to do so either for a roast, full english or even good chips at Vita (clearly classic Turkish cuisine).  How about we wish her well and let people choose where they go?  It''s hardly Bodrum or Benidorm yet!
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: Blue Lizard on July 09, 2009, 11:10:19 AM
It would be like that village in "The prisoner" if we all ate the same and dressed the same..live and let live i say ;)
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: Lougie on July 09, 2009, 11:18:20 AM
I do wish her luck & it''s nothing personal against her but I just can''t understand why people want that sort of thing in Kalkan.

Most of the people who are posting on this thread are regular visitors to Kalkan and residents, obviously we all love Kalkan otherwise we wouldn''t return year after year or move there so why change somewhere that you love, I don''t understand why us Brits have to spoil a place for our own personal gain.

Everyones different I guess, the world would be a boring place if we where all the same!!
Title: Re: Very "British" Restaurant-Kalamar Rd
Post by: Enişte on July 09, 2009, 11:25:57 AM
I think we all hope that this is not the thin end of a large fried British wedge in Kalkan.  If located in the centre of the village, I think it might cause more of a stir.  Variety is apparently the spice of life for some, when for most of us on EK, being in Kalkan is that very spice!
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