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Title: onur air ???
Post by: kasska on May 03, 2008, 12:25:46 PM
Hello every one  :) has any one flown to dalaman with onur air ? i have been told they are not serving food any  more on their flights .
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Post by: kevincat99 on May 03, 2008, 12:51:58 PM
Could be good news as the last food that I had with them wasn''t exactly cordon bleu  ::)
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Post by: felicity on May 03, 2008, 12:56:26 PM
yes Onur air stopped serving  free food as from jan this year - but you can buy snacks and drinks and the sandwiches are very tasty and not too expensive! :)
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Post by: Em1 on May 03, 2008, 07:47:18 PM
Hi
I am sure if you do a search you''ll find loads on Onur Air flights! Some people love them some hate them. Personally I would not really want to ever fly with them again...but this is just my opinion.
Em
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Post by: misty on May 03, 2008, 08:34:05 PM
The best and most amusing thing I read about them on a forum was a guy who said he felt safer flying night bombing raids over Dresden than flying with Onur Air......
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Post by: RosiB on May 03, 2008, 08:39:52 PM
We use Onur Air most of the time and they''re fine.
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Post by: felicity on May 03, 2008, 09:32:26 PM
Me too - great prices too!!  They are NO worse than any UK charter airline!
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Post by: misty on May 03, 2008, 09:41:13 PM
They been banned from some EU airports but then again so have some other major airlines at various times !!!
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Post by: kalkan4eva on May 03, 2008, 10:40:52 PM
I do worry about these Onur Air threads that appear from time to time on the forum as we booked with Aegean last year for June 08 as they were ridiculously cheap.  Members seem divided on the subject - I''m not bothered about food or entertainment, but surprisingly enough, I am bothered about safety :o. Please post whatever safety issues have been muted about Onur as an internet search hasn''t revealed anything untoward.
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Post by: itstime on May 03, 2008, 10:55:21 PM
flown with onur air many times and no problems other than the awful food! looks like i''m spared that experience this time as booked again for July and no food included. Read a few scare stories but to be honest nothing that causes me any concern. Got to trust the authorities that an airline flying to and from this country is safe. Well hope so ;D
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Post by: kalkan kitty on May 04, 2008, 06:32:02 PM
I agree, they are fine, and cheaper than other airlines.  The only complaint I would have is the food and now you have the choice to purchase snacks, so even better. One good thing is the air conditioning on Onur Air isn''t freezing like the British charters. Im flying out to Kalkan with Thomas Cook 2moro and im thinking I dont want to take an extra layer of clothing for the plane!!  As for the scare stories about Onur Air, I do not think it is useful posting scare stories when some people might be nervous flyers.  :)
Title: Re: onur air ???
Post by: Em1 on May 04, 2008, 07:48:42 PM
Hi
I was on an OnurAir flight when one of their latest ''scare stories'' happened, so I can confirm that it is not all gossip. However as I think people have the right to fly with whoever they like, I do not rant on about my experiences. People who are nervous flyers have the same right to information as anyone else and can can choose whether to read and believe posts as the think fit.  Rant over!
Em
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Post by: Blackpool on May 05, 2008, 10:21:00 PM
Hello everyone, and happy birthday to EK (https://www.enjoykalkan.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi10.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa133%2F1912SmithJohn%2Fbeerchug.gif&hash=7c85c8315844f72bf7ec44449f99f9df8ba52ddd)

I''m a nervous flyer and as such I like to keep myself fully informed.

Here is some useful info from Wikipedia about Onur Air. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onur_Air (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onur_Air)

Their latest mishap was four days ago, and although there has not yet been a catastrophic incident I can ''safely'' say that I''d rather drive it than fly with them!

Another snippet from PPRuNe
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=325274 (http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=325274)

Good luck to all their passengers ;D
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Post by: chinacat on May 09, 2008, 01:54:27 PM
There''s definitely no food.  Don''t really know about their safety record but without exception they were the most sullen crew I''ve ever come across.  They also don''t appear to have any concept of what the time is.  Both in-going and out-going flights were over an hour late - with obviously not a word of apology, or even a word at all.  I hope I never fly with them again . . . .
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Post by: fidimax on May 09, 2008, 03:09:04 PM
yep,agree with you about the onur trolley dollies ?????? they move about with faces like a bulldog chewing a wasp ! but hey,cheap flights,have a couple of beers,sit back and enjoy the ride !!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o :o :o    Neil.
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Post by: clarborough on May 09, 2008, 06:46:59 PM
We flew with Onur Air and they were fine. Better than Pegasus Airways today. We have just got home after an 8 hour delay but they did take us to a hotel for a few hours.
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Post by: Blackpool on May 10, 2008, 10:03:05 AM
but hey,cheap flights,have a couple of beers,sit back and and enjoy the ride !!!!!!!!!!!...

There''s a clue in there somewhere  ;D


Title: Re: onur air ???
Post by: Shirley Burley on May 10, 2008, 12:00:29 PM
I have paid MUCH less on Thomas Cook and Easyjet than I have with Onur Air so I hardly think that''s an argument Blackpool!  I have flown with Onur Air more times than I can count and have never had a problem.  The only ''scare'' I have ever had was on another airline which I shall not mention as I don''t think it''s necessary.

I don''t think you would stop driving a BMW just because you had an accident in one.
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Post by: RosiB on May 10, 2008, 12:23:48 PM
I agree, Shirley. The only time I had a scare was not with Onur. OK they''re not the friendliest cabin crew and the food wasn''t fab but they get you there!

Ros
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Post by: Hoca on May 10, 2008, 08:01:47 PM
Try flying to Poland with SAS on a prop plane then you will know scary
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Post by: yelkenite on May 10, 2008, 08:15:51 PM
you''ve hit the nail on the head with that one Hoca; when you compare other airlines. Flew with Saudia, an otherwise excellent airline, on an internal flight from Riyadh to Tabuk in 1974; DC3 conversion it was with oil or something venting from the engine to flow over the wings,  making a terrible racket too.  Onur air feels like paradise compared! hahaha
bill
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Post by: Hoca on May 10, 2008, 08:18:33 PM
This was last year we circled for 1 hour to use up fuel so we could land at Gdensk.
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Post by: freeroamer on May 10, 2008, 09:43:08 PM
My first post in here, so hello to all regulars viewing this.

I have to say my first post is not positive. Onur air were very poor the first and only time I flew with them. There was a poorly passanger on the flight home, we got just about two hours into our flight and we had to turn around and head back to Istanbul,as they are not allowed to land in certain European airports. Also the passenger required oxygen and none of their oxygen cylinders worked, so obvious safety violations there.

I think that says it all, I wont take the risk of flying with them again.

free :-)
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Post by: Shirley Burley on May 10, 2008, 11:44:30 PM
I''m sure a large percentage of forum members (including me) are using Onur Air this year and ridiculous scare stories of random things that have happened (on any airline!) are neither useful nor necessary.  We are still going to fly with Onur Air whether you like it or not, so please stop trying to make the nervous among us even more nervous??!   If I were to walk out of my house tomorrow and be hit by a bus, would everyone stop walking out of their houses?!  (ok it''s fairly unlikely that a bus would drive down my road but that''s not really the point).

I very nearly started a thread about the safety factor of leaving your home only to be hit by a flying sky lantern from Lantana''s wedding (hide everyone, it''s coming to get you!) but come on everyone, some perspective please...
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Post by: felicity on May 11, 2008, 10:13:09 AM
I too am a little tired of defending ONur air''s so called ''poor safety record'' on this and the ''other'' TA forum..!   >:(  They are a cheap turkish charter airline - no different from Easyjet, Thomas cook XL and any of the others flying into Dalaman.  Having travelled with them countless times due to their (usually) excellent prices (although now not quite so competitive!!  :() I find them NO worse than any of the other UK charter airlines and in fact quite often the planes are newer, the staff more polite, more legroom etc etc   As John says - nobody has started a thread on not travelling BA..and they are the ones with a worse safety record..!!  As far as Im concerned - if the UK authorities are happy to have Onur fly and land in their airspace then Im as happy to travel with them as I am any other airline - charter or otherwise

If you don''t want to travel with them - then take your chance with somebody else - (I can tell you - the last flight I took with TC was worse than any flight with Onur air)....thereby leaving the cheap seats for the rest of us!!

Title: Re: onur air ???
Post by: Annie on May 11, 2008, 08:48:03 PM
Hooray to Shirley Burley, The Feds and Felicity!
This is our first time to kalkan and I am soo excited, thanks to this brilliant site and all the wonderful information I have gleamed from it. The one thing that I do not want to read is all the scary stories re. Onur Air.  The three of you have basically put it in a nutshell.  If there is ever a disaster with any airline, the world will know soon enough and that is about as much information as I personally need to know.  Now I''ve had my little rant I shall just say thanks to all the people who have posted such useful info. and I have a feeling that this is the start of a love affair with Kalkan (which ever airline we use  ;).
Title: Re: onur air ???
Post by: Em1 on May 11, 2008, 08:57:05 PM
Hi
Surely if people have had a bad experience with any airline they can say so on here, and people can either read it and take note, or simply ignore? Reading through the posts here, it seems some people think their ''positive'' views (of Onur Air on this occasion)  are more worthy than other peoples ''negative'' ones.
Em
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Post by: misty on May 11, 2008, 09:09:57 PM
Valid point but none of the other airlines have beeen refused landing rights in some EU countries
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Post by: Em1 on May 11, 2008, 09:16:20 PM
Hi Feds
Dont be so damn patronising
Em
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Post by: felicity on May 11, 2008, 09:20:14 PM
Are they still denied landing rights...Misty..??  I know they were a while back..(in Holland or Germany I believe) but that was a while back..and if they are good enough for the good ole'' Empire - then they are good enough for me...and to be quite honest - still nobody is concerned with the BA safety record - what if we were to ''find and replace'' Onur with BA...  ;)
Title: Re: onur air ???
Post by: misty on May 11, 2008, 09:22:46 PM
If you look at the stats BA will always come out better.......I think at the end of the day you pays your money you take your chance ...
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Post by: Blue Lizard on May 11, 2008, 09:28:01 PM
i did that...... or so i thought!! i booked BA..then they sold the routes to easyjet!!they will take your money and treat you like cattle who ever you book with!! still it could be worse i could be sellotaped to the wing of a Tiger moth ,no food no entertainment just teethful of flies ;)
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Post by: Mrs B on May 11, 2008, 10:20:35 PM
I''d like to put my views in a nutshell...regardless of what transport we use, we are at risk every single time we use it.
We just have to hope the safety rules have been adhered to and maintenance has been undertaken, whether it be a plane, bus, train or car.
Title: Re: onur air ???
Post by: yoyo on May 11, 2008, 10:31:08 PM
Well said Mrs B.  The only reason I don''t tend to use Onur Air nowadays (I travelled to Istanbul in the early 90s with them twice, and apart from the planes looking a little shabby the flights were fine) is the fact that we effectively lose out on 1/2 days holiday because we are actually returning to the UK on their outbound flight - as I only get out to Kalkan 2 weeks a year, the longer I can get the better!

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Post by: Blackpool on May 12, 2008, 10:42:07 AM

...Nobody has ever died in an Onur Air plane crash.  That’s a fact.  When the day comes that we have a fatality you can say “I told you so”.  Until then please put away your sandwich board telling us that the end of the world is nigh, because it may genuinely frighten some people.




Those links were mine.

I clearly stated that Onur Air have not yet suffered a catastrophic loss.

BA have, in various guises been flying since 1924. Onur Air since 1992. BA''s last catastrophic loss was in 1972 due to the pilot having a heart attack shortly after take off over Staines. Onur Air, on the other hand have the distinction of actually having had a pilot removing himself from the cockpit, announcing to the assembled passengers that the aircraft was unsafe to fly and getting off.

I did''nt come on here to have argument about flying, but this thread touches on my bete noir : I have read all the Mac Arthur Job journals. I do hate flying in general. I will not put my trust in Onur Air.
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Post by: DRBD on May 12, 2008, 12:33:03 PM
Personally I think this subject has been "done to death" in more ways than one. Lets all do our own thing and have our own opinions on who we want to fly with and change the subject. PLEASE .....

Title: Re: onur air ???
Post by: Blue Lizard on May 12, 2008, 12:44:12 PM
hear!! hear!!
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