Over weight cabin crew ban!!

[tigertim]

I have just read on the KTLN website, the article regarding the ban on Turkish Ailines cabin crew that are overweight. Well what a shame the same doesnt apply to certain passengers that are overweight too!!  We all have weight restrictions regarding our luggage etc and have to pay extra if we have to. However, where are the weight restrictions for passengers??
I am sure most of us at some time have been squashed into a seat by the passenger nextdoor that probably should have been charged for two seats!!
When i visited Kalkan earlier in the year i was in the departure lounge when a rather large family ( about 6 of them) turned up with their McDonalds "goody bags"!  Having seem them earlier in the evening in a restaurant eating,it was somewhat of a concern to learn that they needed more food!!
Please note that i am NOT running anyone down that, due to health problems, have weight issues.
I am sure that many years ago there were weight restrictions for passengers so why not bring it back??!!
I know now ive opened a really BIG can of worms!!
 

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[maryjane]

Tiger Tim, well said and I totally agree with you.  Coming from an aviation background and being ex-cabin crew myself, I fully understand your point, we were regularly weighed.  There are several internal airlines in the US who DO weigh their passengers, over a certain weight, they have to purchase an extra seat or two (or on one occasion - three!)  There is also a safety issue - God forbid, but if  there is an emergency situation and passengers have to assume the brace position, what happens then?   I am in no way denigrating larger people, everyone is entitled to fly and have a holiday, but I OBJECT to being penalised for being a couple of kilos overweight on luggage and only weigh 7 stone myself!  Draw your own conclusions! 

[Blue Lizard]

Surely Porkie people must have to be scattered along the plane......if they all sat at the back.
a) it would have trouble getting off the ground
 
b) if it did it would be flying doing a "wheelie"
 
 

[Kefgirl]

I've posted before about our flight with Monarch last September. Two very large ladies were unable to fit into the seats, one got moved to a seat where the armrests could be moved upright, but the other one (they weren't together) had to get off 
There was also a (let's be straight here) very fat young woman, who had to half lie, half sit, sideways for the whole flight. as her hips/bum were too wide for the seat.
Maybe Monarch are making the statement about carrying overweight passengers by stealth. ie. if you can't fit into the seat- tough-you don't fly. The seats were quite narrow.
The nightmare scenario is being behind one of these behemoths if we need to evacuate quickly through the emergency exits 

[maryjane]

Dear Kefgirl, imagine the scenario.   A very bumpy flight from Chicago to New Orleans - in front a three seater!
I pointed out my concerns to the cabin crew, but whilst they totally sympathised with me, the flight was full and we could not be moved.   In an emergency situation, we and several other rows would have been in the s--t, through no fault of our own.

[fidimax]

If airlines put a weight limit on the bigguns,lets just say 20 stone,if you are a little un,10 stone and under,would you get a discount ?
 
                                         Hhhhmmmm   

[maryjane]

Dear Blue Lizard - gives a whole new meaning to the word
"Jumbo Jet"!

[kalkan4eva]

European legislation means you can't discriminate against people of the the grounds of race, sex, disability etc. So banning anyone deemed overweight is actually against the law. Anyone with mobility problems not caused by excess weight would also be a hinderance in an emergency situation, do you propose to have those people moved or barred from flying also? This stopped being about baggage allowance very quickly and turned on those who might prevent a swift exit from an aircraft in an emergency.
 
I'm not fat or thin and do not have mobility problems, BTW, just disturbed by this thread

[maryjane]

Kalkan4Eva
I think you have missed the point.   At no time has anyone denigrated those less fortunate souls who are not as mobile as ourselves - people with disabilities are seated where THEY have priority should there be a problem and an emergency evacuation has to take place.
 
  But , contrary to your views, it still does not get away from the initial subject raised, baggage allowances are an utter joke, human rights or not!

[kalkan4eva]

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A very bumpy flight from Chicago to New Orleans - in front a three seater!
I pointed out my concerns to the cabin crew, but whilst they totally sympathised with me, the flight was full and we could not be moved.   In an emergency situation, we and several other rows would have been in the s--t, through no fault of our own.

I don't think I've missed your point at all...this isn't about baggage as far as I can see.
maryjane, you are perfectly entitled to your view, as I am to mine.

[Blue Lizard]

When i buy my seat i buy the whole seat...not half of it while someone next to me spills over onto mine....2 years ago
 a large woman spent most of the flight half on my chair,not only this but when we hit turbulance she kept trumping..although she was very apologetic it still flew up my nostrils!!
 
also if i had to exit by the emergency shute the last thing i want is broken bones through a whopper clutching a half eaten muffin landing on me.....i would sue!!

[kalkan4eva]

let's face it...the chances of getting out of a plane that's crashed are pretty slim (no pun intended ) so this is an arbitary discussion...but if by some miracle you survive and need to get out, behave like a commuter on the London Underground and you'll have no problem
 
I've also sat next to a guy who shared my seat. He was just like Lurch - must have been about 6 ft 10 and he had to use up all my leg room as well as his own. He wasn't overweight, by any stretch of the imagination, but he will have weighed a considerable amount because of his height and build...so how do you discriminate because he doesn't look like BL's passenger and didn't eat muffins as I recall , but I hazzard a guess he may have weighed the same - if not more than the large lady trumper.
These are the "joys" of flying, and until you have your own private learjet, this is your lot

[popps]

Has this turned into a "I hate fat people" thread? First, don't pay for fat people to have life-saving operations on the NHS, now don't let them travel to Kalkan?
 
By the way, I'm not fat, weighing in at 9 stone 7, but, just for the hell of it, I thought I'd stand up for the chubby ones. What is classified as fat, any how? I saw quite a few who might be classified as such on my last visit - that's by my own benchmarks. So please give fat people a break - they've got shorter life longevity, more risk of obese related diseases, and, in the short term, have to pay much more than us svelt folk for sun cream.
 
So give them a break - they deserve a holiday!

[kalkan4eva]

 
 

[Blue Lizard]

popps if one falls on you it will be give you a break
 
i must say my posts on this are tongue in cheek ..if it makes you feel better i will hug a tubber

[Kalkan regular]

Yes but would a tubber want to be hugged by a boney lizard, even if it was blue!

[clara 50]

I have never yet been squashed by a larger person on a plane as I do a crafty and make sure I have a window seat so Hubby's in the middle, so if anyone gets squashed by the person in the aisle seat it's him poor lamb! Mind you I always seem to have the kid behind me that enjoys kicking the back of the seat all the way, nearly had my lunch and coffee in my lap more than once  . Well can't win them all I suppose

[Blue Lizard]

I tried to hug a Tubber.... .but i couldn't get my arms around and i got covered in muffin crumbs